※ 引述《lerudit (l'Erudit)》之銘言：
: ※ 引述《lg31cm (30處男)》之銘言：
: : 我去瑞典也碰到類似的情形，跟他們一起吃飯到最後就變成
: : 他們自己聊自己的，我只好坐在那邊發呆，假如你的英文沒有
: : 很好，他們似乎就懶得跟你聊了...0rz
: There is nothing to complain really. Similar situations can also happen in
: Taiwan. People can talk in Taiwanese but leave some others only understanding
: Chinese alone.
(我英文不好，我試圖瞭解你的意思...)
不過在台灣通常是一個講台語的與講國語的也能溝通，哈...
: The only way to avoid this is to learn the language as young as possible.
: If you are going to use it and pay the same cost on it, why not just do it
: as soon as possible?
: Next time, when you hear somebody objects to allow children to learn foreign
: language for some reasons, do not believe them.
前後文好想有點不通?不過去之前我已經上了幾個月的英文會話課程，
還勉強可以溝通就是了(去玩還可以，開會討論就頗吃力了)
(英文不好為什麼要去?這要問我老闆...= =)
: : 歐洲人似乎認為英文流利是正常的，下次我應該跟他們說在亞洲
: : 沒有這回事，不然你就不會看到一堆從美國或歐洲的人跑來教英文
: : 順便泡妞...= =
: This is not true. What are the Asia boundaries you recognise?
: How about Singapore? India? Hong Kong? Philippines?
: In fact, Taiwanese TOEFL language test results were quite bad....
: (probably still better than the football rank...)
: I am not saying anyone is bad however,
: but if you say Asian's English is commonly not good, then they could say
: no, for my experience, XXX are very good.... and YYY and ZZZ all very good...
: Then, you will stand in em...barr...ass...ment...
香港、新加坡、印度、菲律賓英文好有歷史因素，就像台灣被日本統治好長一段時間，
至今仍有不少老人會說日文是一樣的道理。況且這幾個國家加起就可以代表整個
亞洲嗎？不是嘛對不對？也許我應該修改成「在台灣沒有這回事」，這樣比較沒有
語病。
題外話:
英文是很重要沒錯，但是講的好像每人都有義務應該要精通就有點令人反感，
(我以前碰過一個英文老師也這麼認為)
我在丹麥車站看到有個東歐來的英文講的比我還差，但是我並不歧視他...
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: ※ 引述《lg31cm (30處男)》之銘言：
: : 我去瑞典也碰到類似的情形，跟他們一起吃飯到最後就變成
: : 他們自己聊自己的，我只好坐在那邊發呆，假如你的英文沒有
: : 很好，他們似乎就懶得跟你聊了...0rz
: There is nothing to complain really. Similar situations can also happen in
: Taiwan. People can talk in Taiwanese but leave some others only understanding
: Chinese alone.
(我英文不好，我試圖瞭解你的意思...)
不過在台灣通常是一個講台語的與講國語的也能溝通，哈...
: The only way to avoid this is to learn the language as young as possible.
: If you are going to use it and pay the same cost on it, why not just do it
: as soon as possible?
: Next time, when you hear somebody objects to allow children to learn foreign
: language for some reasons, do not believe them.
前後文好想有點不通?不過去之前我已經上了幾個月的英文會話課程，
還勉強可以溝通就是了(去玩還可以，開會討論就頗吃力了)
(英文不好為什麼要去?這要問我老闆...= =)
: : 歐洲人似乎認為英文流利是正常的，下次我應該跟他們說在亞洲
: : 沒有這回事，不然你就不會看到一堆從美國或歐洲的人跑來教英文
: : 順便泡妞...= =
: This is not true. What are the Asia boundaries you recognise?
: How about Singapore? India? Hong Kong? Philippines?
: In fact, Taiwanese TOEFL language test results were quite bad....
: (probably still better than the football rank...)
: I am not saying anyone is bad however,
: but if you say Asian's English is commonly not good, then they could say
: no, for my experience, XXX are very good.... and YYY and ZZZ all very good...
: Then, you will stand in em...barr...ass...ment...
香港、新加坡、印度、菲律賓英文好有歷史因素，就像台灣被日本統治好長一段時間，
至今仍有不少老人會說日文是一樣的道理。況且這幾個國家加起就可以代表整個
亞洲嗎？不是嘛對不對？也許我應該修改成「在台灣沒有這回事」，這樣比較沒有
語病。
題外話:
英文是很重要沒錯，但是講的好像每人都有義務應該要精通就有點令人反感，
(我以前碰過一個英文老師也這麼認為)
我在丹麥車站看到有個東歐來的英文講的比我還差，但是我並不歧視他...
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